i know no politics thought you'd like

[Koontz 15]

Screw em. We will all just have to fish them rivers in the backwoods. I like those the best anyway

[the_ other_mark]

some of you get it.that makes me happy, thank you. the others need a wake up call. an executive order can be overturned, by the next leader, if there is one. where as, a law is stuck in stone (mud ).
here is where they are going. they want your gun! and dont want you to buy one. almost all fishing supplies are bought from large, very large outdoor outfiters. their bread and butter is fishing and camping. that keeps the doors open, not gun sales.
right now the forest service has closed roads leading to back woods creeks. no camping. reason, they have stoped gold dredging and dont want anyone there, less area for them to cover. if you are there, it's an easy arrest.
if the govt. can stop or slow it down, fishing and camping, the large outfitters can't survive on gun sales alone, they well close up. you think i'm crazy. i'v watched a lot of the things, that i once did in the out of doors, no longer be available to me. it goes in little steps, the next thing you know it's gone. i don't know what it is, but whatever i like or did, gets restricted and then eliminated. right now the govt. is after my farm. NO I'M NOT MAD AT THE GOVT, my home is not on it. if my home was, i'd , i'll leave it at that. they are looking at the land for the high speed train!
if you don't believe me ask my wife. she well also tell you some other strange things as well. i'm done with this post, good luck.
i'll be glag to start another one!

[Webmaster]

Obama Admin Jumps to Squelch Rumors of U.S. Fishing Ban

By ALLISON WINTER of Greenwire
March 11, 2010
The Obama administration is trying to dash rumors that it planned to ban recreational fishing in marine waters and the Great Lakes in the wake of a series of Internet posts warning that such a prohibition was imminent.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration chief Jane Lubchenco told a House panel yesterday that her agency had no plans to halt fishing. And National Marine Fisheries Service chief Eric Schwaab released a statement last night saying NOAA "is committed to adopting policies that will ensure that current and future generations have the opportunity to enjoy the great tradition of recreational fishing."

The rumors apparently started with an online column Tuesday on ESPN's outdoors Web site, which said the administration's new oceans policy could prohibit fishing in oceans, Great Lakes and inland waters. Robert Montgomery's column questioned whether environmental groups have had undue influence on the plan.

The news blog Drudge Report reposted the column, and dozens of right-wing bloggers wrote yesterday that President Obama would ban recreational fishing.

For instance, Gateway Pundit blogger Jim Hoft wrote: "Obama's Latest Assault on Freedom -- New regulations Will Ban Sport Fishing." He quoted from the ESPN column, adding, "Barack Obama has a message for America's 60,000,000 anglers -- We don't need you."

Fox Nation also featured this headline yesterday: "Obama to ban sport fishing?" with links to Hoft and ESPN.

The administration is drafting plans for a new ocean policy and marine zoning system. The recommendations from the inter-agency ocean task force are expected this month and would likely lead to an executive order from Obama on ocean policy. The plan could eventually lead to efforts to map the sea for different uses, but draft reports from the group made no suggestions to ban fishing.

But with rumors flying yesterday, Reps. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) and Kathy Dahlkemper (D-Pa.) both expressed concern about the issue in a House Science Committee hearing. They asked the NOAA chief if the administration is considering a ban on recreational fishing.

"Will you please reassure me and the angling public, whether commercial or recreational that their issues are going to be taken into consideration?" Broun asked.

"Both commercial and recreational fishing are vitally important to this nation," Lubchenco said. "We are not proposing any blanket ban on recreational fishing. I would strongly oppose that, and it is not in the works."

Lubchenco said one of her priorities as NOAA chief is to do a better job of working with both commercial and recreational fishers, whose interests are "absolutely part of NOAA's responsibility to represent." She is planning a summit in Washington with recreational fishers next month

The suggestion that the administration's new ocean policy could limit fishing may have struck a nerve with a fishing industry that has clashed for years with federal regulators. NOAA faces growing criticism from recreational and commercial fishers concerned about catch reductions and enforcement crackdowns.

Thousands from the fishing industry gathered outside the Capitol last month to protest strict new reductions in their catch that stemmed from mandates to end overfishing and rebuild fisheries that were part of massive fisheries legislation Congress passed in 2006. Fishers took to a stage to question whether NOAA listened more to environmentalists than fishers and chanted "Jane's gotta go!" (E&ENews PM, Feb. 24).

ESPN outdoors editor Steve Bowman issued an apology yesterday afternoon, saying the article should have been clearly identified as commentary, not news, and should have had more balance. The Web site has since altered the article and added a header identifying it as an opinion piece.

[whiteguyracer31]

I agree with the disapperance of items at the outdoors/gun stores. Has anyone else noticed that you can buy primers for shotgun shells anymore. Me and my friend were tryin to reload all of our old shells, he use to do it when he was a kid all the time, but when we go to find them we have no luck. Talked to people at several of the local gun stores and they tell us why. Turns out that the feds and state gov. are restricting not only the amount of ammuntion hunting stores can purchase but also how much the suppliers of the ammuntion can produce. This not only jacks up the prices but makes it even harder to find what you need. If you try to buy the powder, primer and other necesary materials to do it your self you run into another fence, its virtually impossible to purchase primers in California (you have to get them off the internet or go out of state to get them.) Its all lode of ****. The_other_mark i totally agree but I dont understand why you feel that the feds want to shut down the fishing and camping outfitters. And im sorry about your farm...isnt it nice to know that your tax dollars are go to screw you over.

[racelyle5]

Ok got good info here thanks guys. On the "order visa/v law" both can be repealed and/or reinstated through a number of ways . Sorry you are having the land "problem" . I spent 5 yrs fighting the county of Santa Clara myself just to come back to were we started, that fight cost me and my family A LOT, not just money but much much more, it sucks to fight to " GOV" in any form. I grew up with hunting and fishing (ozark mt boy here ) but some of the laws and reg do have a reason ( not all ) but this should be talked about on some other board. Again thanks for the info guys - Lets go racing !!!!